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Reply BaldDumboRat, November 3rd, 2009, 2:35 am

Sorry for the wait, but now I have a bunch of stuff cleared up and now I've got my free time back to work on more things again!

I like this page but hate it at the same time. Mostly because I'm bad at doing my own backgrounds. See what happens when I don't use a tone?
Also I always seem to suck at drawing cameo characters XD Because they're.. you know. Random cameos.
I'm learning as I go along, and I hope Zanoh doesn't mind. I'm drawing angles I'm not used to, but I'll get the hang of it the more I do it. So, Zanoh, keep up with the nice screen writing and angle views, it forces me to do it and thus helps me get better. ^^

I'll try to update this comic every Tuesday :3

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Reply E.Redemption, November 3rd, 2009, 2:20 pm

yay! Thanks for the update :D

Reply BlackCatz, November 3rd, 2009, 2:24 pm

awesome to see you update.. I do enjoy seeing your new stuff :D

Reply BaldDumboRat, November 3rd, 2009, 8:53 pm

Duct tape can fix everything. If only the government knew that, then maybe we wouldn't be in a economic crisis. Duct tape could patch that up in 3 seconds flat XD

Reply CartoonistWill, November 10th, 2009, 2:35 pm

Nice. And here's to getting better! Cheers!

*You changed your icon again? lol*

Reply Tess, November 22nd, 2009, 6:31 am

You characters tend to be a bit short and short-limbed and some of the postures area bit stiff, but I really like the pacing and paneling from what I can see so far. I think you'd do well to try out some normalized proportions sometime and see where it takes you, even if is harder to panel. And actually, for me you doing your own backgrounds aren't as jarring as the "cheated" backgrounds. Cheated backgrounds area great thing...when they match and go with the art. Your own simple rendering matches your art better at this time.

Reply BaldDumboRat, November 22nd, 2009, 1:19 pm

Yeah, I agree, I have quite a bit of work I need to do on anatomy, and I need to buy the tutorial on perspective for comic artists. >_<;
This page isn't all that great to me, even I noticed the awkward stiffness of the characters, and it bugs me >>

Reply Richicrypt, November 23rd, 2009, 7:05 pm

Don't bother with perspective for comic artists, as with most comic/manga/anime tutorial books it's full of cut corners and half assed answers, go for the real big evil looking books on perspective and anatomy. They wont give you quick fixes like the others but will give you real skills that can be used in your artistic future.

Reply BaldDumboRat, November 24th, 2009, 1:36 pm

Actually, I've checked this book out from the library before, as it was recommended to me by a professional comic artist from Marvel.
This book:

It's actually VERY informative, very long, and detailed, and the examples and explenations it gives are much deeper and easier to understand than my art teacher could teach me when he was teaching about perspective.
This book is quite large, and there is even a section on the human anatomy and how it works with perspective. The characters doing the tutorial actually take off their skin to show examples straight down to the human anatomy's reactions to the world around them. They show examples of different body types too.

One of the most recomended books for comic artists is Scott McCloud's understanding comics, I'm still not done reading it, but it has been VERY helpful for me and more informative than any tutorial book I've ever read. Perspective! For comic book artists is one of those books people recommend alongside Scott McCloud's books.

Also, I have one of those big evil anatomy books, but it actually sucks ass. The art is detailed, but you can tell that the anatomy is actually very off and shortened. All the humans look like chunky hairy sausage rolls :/ I'm looking for a better one that wont cost too much.

All anime/manga tutorials that are american made are the shittiest things I've seen around. They're just like the Draw 50 series. Teach you how to draw some weird shitty ripoff cartoon character that happens to have big anime style eyes (the character looks completely americanized in the cartoon style and is obviously NOT an anime character)
So, I avoid those books like a plague. The ones I do go for are the How to Draw Manga books that were made in Japan by manga artists. They get very detailed, as long as you get the right ones. But they are mostly for people who already basically know what manga is. And the one thing I hate is that they are mainly very clearly drawn by perverts, seeing as there are over 13 books specifically on how to draw "Hot girls" and only 1 in the entire collection dedicated to drawing men. And that ONE about men, really sucks art wise. Everything is flat and to the point and doesn't have the authentic feel that the female counterpart books have. And when you get books on other things besides characters, you usually get barraged with huge boobs and perverted poses. Which is why I'm always careful on choosing a specific book. I only have two How to Draw Manga books: Adobe Flash Techniques, which is meant solely for people who already basically know the program and know how to draw characters, but it's VERY informative on different techniques to draw and color with a very nice clean effect, with screen shots and examples included.
The other one I have is the Men one, which was a gift because my mom knew I wanted to learn more about the male form, and I was disappointed. It does point out a lot of nice facts about male anatomy, and I'll give it that, but there are many points that are vague that I REALLY wanted to learn, but couldn't.

But if you have any recommendations I would appreciate it. I'm finally about to get a job, so I'll be able to afford a few books to help me again.

Reply Richicrypt, November 24th, 2009, 3:25 pm

Loomis, if you see an art or anatomy book by this man, purchase them! Genius on paper.I always recommend "how to draw comics the marvel way" for its awesome chapters on page layouts and leading the eye. Which as Scott Mcloud will tell you is the most important thing about comics of any type.Also, collect comics, you dont have to read them, but having a large body of reference (not just manga) is the most usefull thing any artist can have.

Also, see if you can get an inking job with a local comic book artist, thats what I did and just by inking his pencils I absorbed quite a bit of info. (nowdays though you could probably do this via the web) He also helped me out alot with my own stuff and landed me my first published Comic.Books help but you can only really learn once your putting something into practice on a regular basis.

Honestly, the best thing you can do as an artist is make connections. Be they anime, manga, american. It always helps to have friends.

Reply BaldDumboRat, November 24th, 2009, 5:00 pm

Thank you for the advice!

I've been watching for comic artists needing help around here, it's hard to find them around here for some reason.

I have over 100 manga volumes, from the old classic Tezuka comics up to very recent ones. From shoujo, to shounen, comedy, horror, romance, action, fantasy, all with unique and fascinating styles.
I have a korean manga (Manko I think?) too, drawn in a much sharper serious style (Priest)
I have two different versions of Hamlet in comic style, and I'm hoping to add the entire Little Nemo collection to my shelves. Hoping to get it for Christmas ;3
Also I've been wanting to get he comic version of The Vampire Lestat.

I'm always collecting whatever's helpful as long as I have the money for it at the time, and I always ask for book store giftcards for presents when christmas and my birthday roll around.

I had a mentor for a while, one of the artists from Seven Seas, she kind of made me realize that drawing a comic isn't something to be tense and serious about all the time. It's about being yourself and having fun with it. She also recommended a few books for me when I showed her some of my comics.
Then there was a representative from Dark Horse who said I was very good at capturing emotions, and that my line work and anatomy still needed work (this was last year)

Sometimes for fun, I sit down and try to mimic other styles. I get better and better at mimicry the more I do it, and hopefully I'll reach a point where all sorts of styles feel natural to me. A good example of that practice is here:

Anyways, nice talking with you! Thank you again for all the advice!

Reply James Birdsong (Guest), September 11th, 2010, 10:04 am


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